Joe Rogan And Hannibal Buress On Amy Schumer Dane Cook stealing jokes

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Your take on all this Amy Schumer I don’t know I’ve been looking at it I’ve been looking at it I don’t think she would take jokes I don’t think she would say and a lot of the jokes that they even talk highlight and that have you seen the most recent ones what’s the most recent one there’s a gang of them they put together some compilations there’s a few of them that are they’re definitely suspicious but the problem is when you’re looking like this you know when you’re like going scouring all the hours of stand-up that I’m sure she’s done places you can find similar premises and she like that I think the real issue is whoever wrote for the sketch show yeah whoever wrote those sketches at the very least is an originality problem at the very least but there’s like the Lewis Black kathleen madigan one is a real egregious one because you could totally come up with the same idea the caffeine Madigan had about someone slapping food out of your mouth yeah as a matter of fact someone said I think Ari Shaffir said that used to be on the Flintstones so there was an episode of The Flintstones where Fred was trying to.

Lose weight and so he had like a robot that would slap food out of his mouth yeah or something along those lines see if you can find that but the fact that it was the same two bits back-to-back like Kathleen had that and Kathleen had you know I would hire somebody Bothering Jesus kathleen madigan x’b it was Oprah about how Oprah’s so rich like how could she be so fat if I was that rich I to have people slap food out of my mouth I would hire someone to exercise me I slept like a baby with cerebral palsy so yeah and then so they go from the slap thing right is it exercise you while you’re asleep get to back it’s too close then there was this one from CollegeHumor that was a sketch about the audition for two girls one cup and it’s the exact same setup that I mean the a exit Fred oh look at that see he’s got a like someone he hired some of the Nok food out of his mouth yeah like that’s not the most original idea like people have thought before the real problem is they’re to back the same thing to back yeah then there’s this the CollegeHumor one which is the exact same set up.

There in the office there are they’re going through the X Factor audition process for two girls one cop I mean it’s the same thing and there’s a couple of other ones so if there’s an originality problem with somebody you know yeah the jig’s I didn’t know that CollegeHumor bit so like say if I was doing a sketch show and someone came to me what we were doing sketch show and said hey how about we do a sketch about the American Idol audition process for two girls one cop like that’s great yeah what we do how we do it so she might not have had any knowledge at all there’s other bits existed like there’s so much content out there today to be aware of every premise in every bit it’s almost impossible it’s tough man and then I tried to do when I was doing my show I would get pitched stuff and everything I would try to I don’t know all comedy hottie but sometimes mean I think like I would try to remember stuff but you can’t remember everything you know I’ve been a day I think we kicked people from in living color out of the La Jolla comedy store she said we had nothing to do with it but when I was there yeah like the comics were complaining much so they got him.

Kicked out actually I had nothing to do with it but I remember being like well this is cool they kicked the writers out because they had these writers that would come and they would hang out at in the back of the Louis Ck comedy store and then they would those sketches would appear on television yeah they would take people’s premises and turn them into sketches it was a real problem it’s like this is in the 90s like the early 90 yeah and so it has happened and my friend Kevin juniors showcase for all these writers and he did this bit about muffins he used to have this closing bit that used to do about muffins that if someone wants a piece of your muffin you don’t give him the muffin top you can have all the muffins Ames he had a bit that did he had a showcase for NBC a development deal with NBC stump you want it was a funny bit and in with Kevin like he’s a funny guy you know yeah and Kevin is I mean first of all his bit was way before the Seinfeld episode but I mean he’s not a thief at all so then that bit came out like in the exact form on an episode of Seinfeld and this is.

NBC riders who went to see him live yeah that happens all the time those guys have to produce and some of them aren’t that good I’ve had some development deals with writers and or some development deals then you meet with writers and you read some of the stuff they write and these guys had this is in the 90s right so this is like the sitcom boom friends and this is when I was on news radio and these guys had big deals where they were getting a lot of money and they were garbage writers terrible yeah and they get desperado man and they need premises and they’ll go to comic clubs in a steel and it was a South Africa huge problem it’s been a Hip Hops huge problem for a long time so you take away those sketches you go well you know I don’t necessarily think you can make her responsible for those sketches because there’s no way like if you were gonna do your show and you had a premise that somebody pitched you what are you do gonna go online and say hey has anybody heard this premise before you’re not gonna do that you have to ask around your friends and your friends might not know you could ask me and I’ve been.

Doing stand-up for 26 years I might not know all right you know there’s you might ask 10 people and those 10 people don’t know but then that big guts on television someone goes Jesus Christ I saw that on MADtv yeah that was another one there was a MADtv one there was a MADtv want TV one it was the exact same premise it was about a woman it was about a me talking to a woman at a counter of a store and someone had helped her you know the person who helps her gets commissioned and she couldn’t say was a black guy so she was trying a way to say it without saying it’s a black guy she’s like um he had dark eyes um you know and like it’s but the same exact premise as MADtv right did she know about the MADtv one problem the watched MADtv til it’s just cool into the mouth oh nice so anyway back to the Amy Schumer thing um yeah I don’t know it’s not good it’s not good but it’s also this there’s like this momentum that’s a part of it now it’s like a feeding frenzy yeah you know and you got like Ari Shaffir had something like that remember when those people were mad at him because of he did a bit and one of his.

Specials about a girl with one arm whenever he’s mad at him he’s sitting it’s in her name South Park comedy central them let him say her name why the I don’t know how that slipped through the cracks because when I I’m one of my specials I did a joke about my ex-girlfriend ladies and gentlemen I talked about having to introduce my ex girlfriend at an open mic after cuz she was a poet I hadn’t seen her she just kind of goes to me and didn’t stop calling me so it was the Joker’s ladies and gentlemen please welcome the cold-hearted it broke my heart you may know her from that returning my phone calls also giving out mediocre joke blows I please welcome to the stage blank and but I it was a couple times I would say her name on stage and they were like you have to change the name you know I changed to something that’s close to the name but they were adamant about had to change it yeah I don’t know what happened I think they didn’t see the problem is he didn’t make that special for them he made that special on his own and sold it to Justin Bieber comedy central oh so I think Jon Stewart comedy central just bought it and they didn’t have to.

Do any work so they bought it and then aired it and then someone just didn’t do their job yeah mostly unknown person yeah she was like goddamn while you live we all make mistakes but what he saying was that there was a fire and you just got to stay away just let it burn out yeah let that fire burn out right you know and I think there’s a fire right now after her and a lot of it is look you gotta be honest about what’s happening in her life she’s a movie star now all of a sudden he’s had one of the biggest years never in that a comedians yeah so she went from a year and a half ago to someone who would do well she probably sell out a weekend in Phoenix or some you know I mean like she did well right she was you have a go theaters I think she was just yeah so let’s say Thea she’s doing like a 1500 seater or something like that now she’s doing 20,000 seats yeah she’s doing arenas man she’s doing arena tours so there’s got to be some of it is the tall poppy syndrome right yeah you know they people want to knock her down because she’s taken off so high but.

Objectively stay away from that look at the whole thing objectively there’s an originality problem a hundred percent there’s definitely an originality the problem is whose problem is that you know like a here’s something that someone said she’s put out 15 hours of you know of sketches in one year of course there’s gonna be some originality problems what about that show key & peele II that appeal can you do a sketch comedy appeal right appeal.

Okay you can peel those guys are hilarious yeah and really original they do some crazy you ever seen that bit they do about slap ass about the guy who slaps asses in the locker room he’s gonna addiction to slapping ass I have to say no it’s funny man and it’s some that I’ve never seen before like whenever I see one of their sketches it’s always so out there weird and I’m very into a very dark direction a lot of times – yeah but original as it’s all original so like that show’s been on for years and no one’s coming at them yeah for not so it can’t it’s not just the tall poppy.

Syndrome there’s definitely in an issue and it sucks man it sucks to watch all the blood in the water you know it’s it sucks to see like her big moment all this great happened to her and all sudden now it’s all this chaos mean I think it’s just more it’s one of those with say like it’s crazy but isn’t that as crazy because we are just the same way deep in it we’re deep in it and it’s our world you know what I mean maybe like my mom isn’t like hey did you that’s what is big it is deep your mom hasn’t found ‘s only been around for a week yeah I mean it has only been going on for a week this is a pretty fresh thing I mean think about Mencia like whence Mencia like that Cosby video came out that dude was still doing giant theatres he was doing like 10,000 seat places within a year all that was over like people don’t like when they find out comedians a plagiarist they don’t like it they get angry and I think someone wrote an article about this recently uh you tweeted it and who was the guy that wrote the article okay but the guy had a real good point.

And he said if someone does something in a movie and it turns out that scene had been in another movie like oh you stole that from Blazing Saddles or some that offend people because they know that you’re just reading some lines for a movie but if someone goes to see Hannibal they know that is your thoughts like they want to see how what is Hannibal think about this you know when I go see Hannibal Burres would it what is it what are his thoughts on blank you know what how does he feel about this how does he feel about like I expect that you know you’re an interesting intelligent guy you’re gonna have your own point of view like you go to see like Monday Morning bill burr as a perfect example Morning Podcast bill burr you can count on Joe Rogan bill burr kind of humor from Breaking Bad bill burr like you go see him he’s got hit like that bit he did about Arnold Schwarzenegger a great man like you ever see that was it a bit about that this gold-digging we got an epidemic of gold-digging whores he’s a great man it’s such a Nia Hill bill burr bit I love that bit but my point is you’re not gonna get anybody to write.

That for you right he’s not gonna steal that from somebody that’s it’s so obvious when you see the bit that it’s his sense of humor and when you’re not doing that when you’re doing just a bunch of like patchwork that some other people wrote you or some clunky premises that you or may not have lifted from somebody else and reworded it offends people yeah cuz you’re a faker right so that’s what happened with Mencia people were offended you know they found out it’s fake faking you’re not doing what saying doing you’re saying here’s the world through my eyes but it’s not really the world through your eyes you’re just trying to push buttons and bang on and make you’re trying to make happen you know you’re trying to use bits that work you’re not necessarily showing people the way you think about stuff and I think that’s what’s unique about stand-up as opposed to anything else like if you found out that jay-z had writers would it offend you I wouldn’t offend me it wouldn’t bother me at all if I found out that you know the.

Rolling Stones hired some guy to write their new album it’s I’m not offended but if I find out that Louis CK’s new special was written entirely by a team of writers and you know and he you know just sort of like rehashed all the that they wrote down then they don’t feel the same way when I like when I watch Louie I know that I’m gonna see Louis CK’s thoughts on stuff every time you see him you know that that’s Louie thinking about and it’s so obvious when you hear it on stage like it’s coming from his voice so that’s the difference I think ya would stand up definitely what’s the guy’s name here Wow a real person how why joke thieves are bad by someone who believe in intellectual property yeah well I believe in intellectual property and I definitely joke she’s if have you ever been swiped does anybody swap from you I’ve heard about it I hear about somebody trying something that open mic or there’s been lines where I’m like maybe they took that idea thing it’s certain or commercials and like that but I haven’t really I take kind of Patrice’s.

Patrice O’Neal out of philosophy about somebody take a joke for me then that means they needed it way more than I do and I’m just gonna write more jokes cuz I got you could take one I’m all right 20 more you know what I mean right so seen I’ve heard about comics try my trying or doing different but I don’t really engage it cuz it’s like if you try my I’m probably going it’s you know good luck with it man the problem with that theory I know what if someone does it and they become like Mencia they’d be right huge Brian they do that on television and you’re like what if it’s like a bit that’s something you have a very unusual bit about skittles it’s like a signature bit it’s hilarious whatever you don’t pick a subject but it’s like something that’s really near and dear to your heart I mean you’ve worked on it for a long time you know there’s bits that you work on like that they don’t work right away you try figure out how to until you figure out how to make them work and then someone comes along and just swipes it you’re not.

Gonna just accept less that my theory applies to and people are they saw less famous day of yeah you just assume they’re never gonna make it but I don’t know man it’s definitely Dyson I mean Amy’s a close friend so it is dicey so exactly that is just a that’s weird yeah cuz I like her a lot I think hilarious she’s very funny sharp in interviews and on the radio you know doing podcast funny sharp smart she’s ambitious as but this is a it’s very unfortunate it’s very unfortunate you know there’s also a problem with apparently she burned through a shitload of material doing that show like doing their show like a lot of her stand-up premises she did in the a show it was very important and then right afterwards she’s got to do the HBO special you know in the HBO special there’s only the one bit there’s only the Jimmy Fallon wendy liebman joke right well there’s no Attempting Normal marc maron one to but the Louis Ck marc maron one that people are saying it’s like boy that’s a pretty obvious premise but you know I don’t know man.

Who the knows you know who knows it’s not good that that’s it we’re gonna leave it there she’ll rebound because she’s talented yeah no I really think she is but if she was anybody else though how about this is true if I didn’t care about her if I wasn’t friends with her she was anybody else people would want her head yeah if she was some you know like if she was Mencia like me if this came out that Ben see I had a new show and all this was on people would want his head there would be blood in the water but she’s strong woman she’s a feminist you know this whole deal it’s like people are and people her comics like her there’s definitely a more kid gloves approach from the comedy community except for the girls that she stole from or allegedly stole from or they believe she stole from they went after her and then they pulled back like Wendy Liebman and Emma Stone kathleen madigan they went after her and then they pulled back so it’s unfortunate definitely look at you backed out of the whole yeah she’ll be fine but you know that’s why it’s important to have original.

Material like Pele and Kiki what is it then Keenan and fellow writers man the writers are a problem if you don’t know those dudes if you hire a bunch of writers you just don’t know you don’t know what their ethical process is you don’t you know what how their creative process works know you don’t know man and those guys have to produce right they have to produce and I blow it’s just cool that into the mouth no yeah this is interesting man this whole thing’s is an interesting time because the accountability is so high now yeah I think that’s good I really do you know because I think you know excuse Amy and say wasn’t her fault and you know it’s all writers and everything like that whatever there was obviously there was an originality problem obviously I mean there’s no getting around that I think that’s a good thing man it forces people to be original as possible and even then you’re gonna have some mistakes or some parallel thinking is so common like a viagra thing right like when if you have an erection for more than five.

Hours seek medical help that joke writes itself over that’s you know every other thing I got two kids I got a boy and a girl the boy is an idiot the girl is so sweet and smart the boys doing this dumb the girl is over there doing this yep my wife is pregnant oh I joke about wanting to have a kid just so I can get 20 to 30 minutes of kid material cuz then I get it with that I get the I get the trying to get my girl pregnant material then the wife is pregnant material what’s going on pregnant she’s all this then I got the Hat the delivery of the baby material like oh fellas if you let me tell if you in there do not look at the pussy is gonna be ruined that junk and then you get that having a newborn baby it do anything it’s just there yep and then you got all the toddlers there’s plenty of material in that yeah but it’s yeah the jokes have been done they’ve been done there’s no way around that there’s no way around those there was a you do member in the early 2000s while Bush was still in office there was a Spy Plane chinese fighter jet collided with an American.

Fighter jet and the Jet Buzzes chinese fighter jets pilot the pilots name was Wang Wei no yeah his name was wrong way w/e I wo n gwe I really yep oh man that joke at the Los Angeles comedy store that night Ari Shaffir like it’s tells about it because he worked the door and you know a comic store starts at 9:00 goes – he said guys who would go on at eleven didn’t know that someone had already did it at nine thirty you know like guys would show up five minutes for said they have no idea they’d say it and the audience is like a weekend Punk this is a joke I love a DVD that night pitching guys that had written in a while either nothing like oh there’s wrong way about the killer I’m feeling so creatively inspired yeah long way guys a while ago I got one this is it this is it yeah some wrote itself sometimes I’ll search a joke before I tweet something that’s about something topical mmm I’ll search that on Twitter to see if somebody else said it already that’s a good move that’s smart and it’s some stuff why am I uh because it’s some stuff that’s easy first.

Thought that anybody can come up with oh yeah I’m not that creative I don’t have a hot take on this Cavaliers game but it’s weird because if it’s your thought like shouldn’t you just express yourself yeah you have to go looking to make sure someone didn’t express a similar idea first know you don’t have to but it’s just tricky I’d rather do that then yeah sweet the exact same thing as somebody when 30 followers just tweet it yeah you know I mean yeah it’s tricky right and memes man that was another one that Wendy Liebman got pissed that someone had taken one of her bits and turned it into a meme but without her face so credit yeah I was a car they used a cartoon image instead of her and she’s pissed yeah if it was her face I mean if they’ve done it a bunch of times to me I’m sure to you too with your actual face and a bit that you said yeah I have zero problem with that I like it it’s good it means they like you it means I think you’re funny and they took the time to say something that you said that they enjoyed and they put it in a picture I’ve kind of upset that I never made blam Whedon ham.

it’s not too late not too late especially if I take your pig funding if I take your pig hunting and then we can go out there with them yeah but people had that mean immediately like while we’re doing the podcast yeah Brian bland Wheaton ham blam yeah like that was one of the big complaints about that fat Jewish guy was that he would take stand-up bits and they would put him in memes they would steal someone stand-up jokes and turn to a meme yeah that was a you know and it became this thing well is he stealing jokes because he’s just putting up memes on Instagram like what is that you know but yeah it is stealing jokes because he wasn’t crediting people and he was also taking people’s memes from their site and just reposted it without crediting him and then getting all of the new followers in like exactly somebody I went out with this girl in New York who works with his management or something mm-hmm and I don’t know how true this is if this is just a one-off instance but she said that he got booked to do somebody’s prom was sweet 16 and she said no like what was a Bar Mitzvah what.

Well if you’re some hedge fund guy and you got a son who’s really into the Internet yeah that’s what he wants Danson want you to get me the fat Jewish what you want that’s what you’ll get nice