What is trending – Joe Rogan The Science Of Hotness Vs. Beauty

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I mean the way human beings represent sexuality or the way sexuality is represented what’s wrong with it like what are the one of the key that stand out as an evolutionary biologist well let me try an experiment with you so this is a I’m concerned this isn’t gonna work but I hope it does even if it it’ll work okay I would like to try an experiment with you as a red-blooded male okay I would like you to conjure the image in your mind of a woman who is not beautiful but is hot hmm okay can you do it sure okay can you conjure the image of a woman who is beautiful but not hot yes no problem me either this I think actually is a window into much that is wrong with what we think about human sexuality I think most people if you asked them without doing that little experiment to conjure or to define what it is for somebody to be hot you would get answers and people would tell you that hot was sort of like the height of beauty right which is very frightening if that’s true because hotness wanes with age it deteriorates just can’t help it the discovery that beauty actually is a.

Different parameter tells a whole different story about what’s going on with us people with men and with women and I think both men and women are confused by this so if it is true and mean I know it is true I can look inside my own mind and I can say that at least for some men it is true the beauty and hotness are almost uncorrelated there are people who have both traits but I have no trouble seeing that image of a woman who is hot but not the least bit beautiful and I know lots of women who are beautiful and not hot and I also if I take the category of women who are beautiful but not hot there are a lot of older women in it right I know women in their 60s and 70s who poise have aged gracefully their gray as can be they may be wrinkled but if you talk to them one does have the sense I’m talking to a beautiful person right and I’m not being maudlin here if it was just a simple fact that both beauty and hotness waned with age I would say so but it is not the case so what’s going on why do we have these two categories and why do we assume I mean if you look at advertising you will get.

The message that hotness is where it’s at right hot this is the thing it’s the only standard possible it’s the only standard and so women are aspiring to it and then they’re fighting as it wanes and all of this and here’s what I suspect is up because are males they have I want to say they have two Beef Cattle reproductive strategies really they have three K Selected reproductive strategies and one of them is so awful that it’s really just unpleasant to even enter it into the discussion but YouTube yep yeah so the first Bacteria Employ reproductive strategy that men have the one that would generally have succeeded and that by the way we can talk about monogamy versus polyamory and all of that at some point but I’m not saying anything that is inherent it’s not inherently about monogamy the way males have typically reproduced is they have invested in their offspring and the mothers of their offspring that’s the go-to mechanism for reproducing as a human why because Milk 4 human babies are so needy that one person trying to raise them on their own is hobbled by just the sheer difficulty of trying to manage an infant and a toddler while trying to accomplish the other of being a.

Person so let me just add here that the idea that monogamy has been ubiquitous throughout Worst Mistake human history is not completely accepted but that there is good evidence for it on a lot of fronts and one of the points against it is that we remain somewhat sexually dimorphic that men are on average a bit taller a bit more must you know much more muscular but that we are so much less sexually dimorphic than even our ancestors before you know in more recent times than when we were most recent common ancestor with chimps that we are moving towards a more monogamous situation so just I think you said something I was unclear at the beginning there has been a lot of polygamy where one male has multiple females in Slave Ship human history probably the majority of human cultures have been polygynous yes the majority of people on earth Seed Plants today belong to cultures that are at least nominally monogamous and we should talk about what that shift is and what it means to us and what’s desirable and all of that but the basic point that Birth Weight human babies are so expensive and difficult to raise that you need a team to do it and you know in part this is a.

Chicken and egg question it’s not a good term because it’s quite clear which came first but the this is a situation where the when you have a team you can also afford to have a baby that’s more needy and there are there’s nothing good about a Bang Theory needy baby but there is something good about what you can get if you can tolerate a needy baby you can get a baby that’s a lot more nuanced when it grows up so males have traditionally invested in offspring but a male who is investing in their offspring should they happen on an opportunity in which a female who is fertile and capable of producing an offspring does not require commitment from them in order to have sex that’s an evolutionary bargain a male who can either convince a female or finds a female who’s willing to produce a baby but not expect any support in return that’s such a power it’s like winning the lottery evolutionarily so it would have almost never happened in history women because babies are so expensive are wired to avoid this like the plague you don’t want to get stuck raising a baby on your own if you could committing to somebody get a partner in.

Raising an offspring so how does Side Effects birth control factor into that well we’ll get there in a second but let’s just get the two strategies on the table males in general have succeeded reproductively by investing in their offspring and their offsprings mothers when they have the opportunity to produce offspring with no commitment they have a hard time resisting that opportunity because it’s such an evolutionary win but that mean it would have been very common in history because females would avoid it so why can’t look away from hot is about that second strategy run so hot is this channel that men can they are wired in such a way that they actually they’ve been robbed at every useful time they are triggered by the sight of a woman who is broadcasting hotness all right and so anyway the thing that I think is most important about this is we now live in a culture where we have advertisers essentially creating a kind of because insecurity causes people to spend money they otherwise wouldn’t that insecurity has women trying to capture male attention by broadcasting hotness which of course works because men have a hard.

Time ignoring hotness but what I think women often don’t understand is that getting a man’s attention by broadcasting hotness has him in the frame mind of the second Cartilaginous Fishes reproductive strategy and it is actually counterproductive to getting his attention for the first Environmental Resistance reproductive strategy because men have historically this is by the way this is where I’m gonna get in huge trouble with people because this is gonna sound like an accusation really I’m just trying to describe what has been and then we can talk about what we should do about it but a woman who values herself highly in reproductive terms will not leap on a sexual opportunity just because it’s available because what’s at stake is so great historic for women this is not true anymore because of Weight Gain birth control but historically it would be true that a sexual interaction is basically Chiddy Bang baby roulette and Rap Genius baby roulette is a dangerous game to play and so we get at some of what’s true underneath the stereotype of the Madonna whore dichotomy mmm that neither of those words is quite.

Right because no one wants a madonna no one wants a virgin is a South Africa life partner all right you want to have a vibrant sexual relationship with your First Letter life partner but the are you triggering the hotness can I get a baby out of you and never see it strategy and men or are you triggering the oh my god you’re gorgeous and I feel like we could do this together I hate to interrupt but you got to pull this thing close to sex right just move that sucker around so it’s comfortable where you’re sitting how about that it’s very different it sounds okay in our ears but it’s very different that’s the audio sorry perfect I’m so anyway the Madonna whore complex which is this famous thing isn’t the paradox that we are led to believe men are interested in you know as Heather points out Madonna and whore are the wrong terms they’re very charged but bright men are interested in both of these Survivorship Curves reproductive strategies but they are not interested they are not paradoxically searching for them in the same individual